tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21956427.post4739210503957683552..comments2023-10-05T15:01:01.611+05:30Comments on Of Thought & Action: Of inductive logic, perceptions, and natural languagesRitwikhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00616694597577112758noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21956427.post-48029074195977000992007-09-21T14:25:00.000+05:302007-09-21T14:25:00.000+05:30Venu,Yes, definitely the two are orthogonal. I mov...Venu,<BR/><BR/>Yes, definitely the two are orthogonal. I moved from one to the other through the common link of statistical inference based on experience/common sense, with reference to a particular quote that I had come across while discussing something else on somebody else's blog. <BR/><BR/>The Rand example was to just move into interpretation and statistical NLP, which I plan to write about in the recent future.Ritwikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00616694597577112758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21956427.post-10457952759150802942007-09-21T03:03:00.000+05:302007-09-21T03:03:00.000+05:30If the point of the post was to illustrate the Hum...If the point of the post was to illustrate the Humean problem of induction, then I am not sure your Rand example was very relevant. The problem of induction is orthogonal to the problem of natural language understanding or interpretation, i.e. the problem persists regardless of the vagaries/ambiguities of natural language. There would still be a problem of induction even if you were dealing purely in first-order logic.Venuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13287286258248925323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21956427.post-15408183296194734332007-09-19T20:01:00.000+05:302007-09-19T20:01:00.000+05:30Dear Sriram,Perhaps you are confusing Ayn Rand wit...Dear Sriram,<BR/><BR/>Perhaps you are confusing Ayn Rand with Nancy Friday ?doubtinggauravhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10149344536185812623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21956427.post-78890784014478241142007-09-19T19:55:00.000+05:302007-09-19T19:55:00.000+05:30Ritwik, thats a bit counter intuitive. Men, in my ...Ritwik, thats a bit counter intuitive. Men, in my opinion cannot stomach female sexual liberation. So I guess men hate atleast that part of her novels. Again another generalization. :)Alan Smitheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03421286928212470470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21956427.post-64605700359793038152007-09-19T18:34:00.000+05:302007-09-19T18:34:00.000+05:30Sriram,You'd be surprised to know the number of me...Sriram,<BR/><BR/>You'd be surprised to know the number of men who absolutely swear by Rand. We call them libertarians. (Actually that's a stupid generalization too, but one that I like immensely)<BR/><BR/>Anyhow, I'm not planning a series on fallacies - am not a cartel libertarian. The series on logic, of course, is due.Ritwikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00616694597577112758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21956427.post-54041795610811594562007-09-19T16:44:00.000+05:302007-09-19T16:44:00.000+05:30Ritwik, setting aside how the wording sucks(?), wh...Ritwik, setting aside how the wording sucks(?), what I intended to mean was somewhat like 'A'. That is not what Gaurav meant I think. Taking the x% which you suggest, I define x as n(girls who like Rand)/n(girls who have read Rand). Gaurav meant the denominator to be n(all girls). This 'x' is significantly higher than what you'd arrive at for men. Like you say, we need to depend on our own experiences in the absence of stats. I have not met any man (not boy, meaning the chronological age) who has good things to say about Rand. On the contrary I know of girls who reread Fountainhead or Atlas Shrugged when they get bored!<BR/><BR/>Looking forward to your series on logic and fallacies.Alan Smitheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03421286928212470470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21956427.post-61807382665449792392007-09-18T19:13:00.000+05:302007-09-18T19:13:00.000+05:30Lacrosse, Pakistan, Strippers, Anger !!Mein kahan ...Lacrosse, Pakistan, Strippers, Anger !!<BR/><BR/>Mein kahan hoon, mein kaun hoon<BR/>Yeh sab kya ho raha hai ??doubtinggauravhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10149344536185812623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21956427.post-59305378916916238052007-09-18T18:50:00.000+05:302007-09-18T18:50:00.000+05:30PS: on the original post, interesting that just pr...PS: on the original post, interesting that just prior to that he posts on the Duke university lacrosse case, and there he is merely angry. A very general and unspecified anger.<BR/><BR/>He doesnt appear to hate:<BR/> - all strippers<BR/> - all DAs <BR/> - even that specific stripper<BR/> - even that specific DA.<BR/><BR/>and the loss to the lacrosse players was considerably more than what that lady wen thru at the consulate.<BR/><BR/>-JaiJai_Choorakkothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11795629014937167288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21956427.post-82558398321252152302007-09-18T18:03:00.000+05:302007-09-18T18:03:00.000+05:30I'd go with option A too. If the sentence was: Ran...I'd go with option A too. <BR/><BR/>If the sentence was: <BR/><BR/>Rand is MORE popular in the girls hostels,<BR/>I'd lean to option B.<BR/><BR/>If the sentence was:<BR/><BR/>Rand is MORE popular among hostel girls,<BR/>I'd move to option C.<BR/><BR/>With the original article, the perception of that behaviour being more male than Pakistani may have led to that conclusion. <BR/><BR/>regards,<BR/>JaiJai_Choorakkothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11795629014937167288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21956427.post-31477228519419674692007-09-18T15:46:00.000+05:302007-09-18T15:46:00.000+05:30Semantics is not universal, it may be a statistica...Semantics is not universal, it may be a statistical phenomenon - this is one of the central foundations of statistical NLP (as opposed to classical NLP) <BR/><BR/>I'm of course more interested in knowing the statistical distribution of the interpretations. Once that is established, and I am still interested in this, a survey may just be conducted once the second term starts.Ritwikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00616694597577112758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21956427.post-43849512114215115542007-09-18T15:35:00.000+05:302007-09-18T15:35:00.000+05:30I think the interpretation is a matter of semantic...I think the interpretation is a matter of <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantics" REL="nofollow">semantics</A>.<BR/><BR/>And testing the veracity of assertion is a simple matter of taking survey of girls hostel in IIMA.doubtinggauravhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10149344536185812623noreply@blogger.com